Crash NOT Credible Accident or Suicide


People, plz start thinking for u’rselves… multiple Malaysian planes “disappearing”, shot down, unexplainable crashes like this. All within a year, coincidence… Really? Who stands to benefit from these false flags? Get the idea…                    R.I.P.  to the victims. 😦

Crash NOT Credible Accident or Suicide

You have heard of the Christmas Crotch Bomber, do we now have the “Piss Break Plunger?”

 By Robert Hanson

by Gordon Duff with Col Jim Hanke, Lt. Col Steve Avery and FBI SSA Fred Coward

Last night, after consulting with team members, I broke the story of Flight 9525 on the Rense Radio Network.  Not only was this no accident, it wasn’t a suicide either.  This is a “fly by wire” jet.  International convention required this plane to have certain anti-hijacking safeguards.  One of them, complicated by German pig-headedness, left a co-pilot alone in a cockpit, something illegal in the US.

As humorist Rob Hanson points, out, what kind of plan figures a pilot can’t make two hours without a bathroom break?  It all falls apart here, I hope you see it.  Thank you Robert Hanson, the blind will lead us out of the wilderness.

There is nothing about yesterday’s crash of Germanwings 9525, a two hour shuttle flight from Barcelona to Dusseldorf that can believed.  Were this one crash, we might begin to accept what we expect, lies and deceit, but it isn’t one crash.  This is the third?  Are there more?  Planes disappear, they are shot down by non-existent missiles seen by satellites suddenly disabled and radar that has conveniently failed, up to 15 independent systems.

Then again, there is the human factor.  Is the “Charlie” episode, equally tragic-farcical a type of plane crash, clearly not-so-impromptu street theatre, so much like the Boston event or Sandy Hook or London or Madrid, where these carelessly staged plays are acted out before a public increasingly incredulous to it all.

If you think this is a tragedy or something a bit unusual, perhaps odd, you aren’t paying attention.  They have so much more of this planned.  You are being punished.  From Netanyahu’s infamous “Fink’s Bar diatribe” of 1990:

“If we get caught they will just replace us with persons of the same cloth. So it does not matter what you do, America is a golden calf and we will suck it dry, chop it up, and sell it off piece by piece until there is nothing left but the world’s biggest welfare state that we will create and control. Why? Because it is the will of God and America is big enough to take the hit so we can do it again and again and again. This is what we do to countries that we hate. We destroy them very slowly and make them suffer for refusing to be our slaves.”  (Credit to the Defense Intelligence Agency of the United States Department of Defense)

We all knew this one was coming, coinciding with so many events, the meltdown of Kolomoisky and his thugs in Ukraine.  20,000 Iranian troops are engaged in battle around Tikrit, now under a carefully coordinated American air umbrella, an American now closely aligned in war alongside Syria and Iran.

A few hundred miles away, a Saudi led coalition prepares to enter Yemen on behalf of the Islamic State/Al Qaeda coalition being held off by Iranian backed Houthi militias.

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Reading the tale of French air traffic controllers watching 9525 plunge inexorably ground ward is equally incredulous.  This plane has a remote, satellite initiated fly by wire system.  You see, 150 passengers and crew are one thing.  Crashing a plane into a hospital, stadium or nuclear power plant, such as the ones directly under 9525’s flight path, is reason to initiate through satellite the Raython system.

Did the French forget it existed?  Oh, did we tell you that the same system that can automatically land planes can crash them as well?  Did we mention that the source code for the system is “less than secure” and that a nation known for cyber attacks, China, Russia, Israel or even the United States, is quite capable of taking control of any airliner at any time and plunging it into anything at all?

What is even better is that no investigator can legally mention this, no reporter can write of it, no one can admit such a system exists though any idiot with the money to buy a couple of drinks at an airport bar can find out.  Pilots gossip like nobody’s business.

We can go further, we can tell you exactly how it works, what frequencies, how airports are selected and how a covert system meant to protect air passengers from tragedies like this and the rest of us from having hundreds of tons of aluminum and body parts dropped on our heads, is updated and patched.

If You Thought This Was Enough

Last night we brought something else out on Rense.  DARPA, the American version of the famous “Q” branch of James Bond films, was tasked in 2010 to build a robot destroyer, a 100 plus foot long ship that could hunt down diesel nuclear armed subs.

You see, back in 2001 one such sub, a German built diesel sub fired a cruise missile into a building a few miles from the Capitol in Washington DC.  The missile skimmed across the Potomac, its every move watched by AEGIS defense ships off Maryland and New Jersey, monitored by Dick Cheney who had ordered the JLens backed defense system which doesn’t exist.

Courtesy of Adamus Defense Group, London

Accidents Do Happen

We have accidents, we have suicides and then we have events that continually violate statistical probabilities at “trillions to one” levels.  This is no suicide, it is a revenge attack perpetrated by a national intelligence agency.  You will never know what it is revenge for, what it warns of or who it is intended to leverage.

You will never know, not this time, not 9/11, not “Charlie,” not any of it.  Don’t try to figure it out.  There is an issue of access.  I can speak personally of this to a point.  I remember a meeting maybe 18 months ago.  I had been getting briefings, private, official, from all the “smart people.”  Then I got on the ground, and is so often the case, realized immediately that everyone who thought they knew things, the CIA, the Rand Corporation, the CFR, were simply making it all up.

They knew nothing at all.

Have any of you ever used a satellite telephone?  Do you know where to buy one?  Could you pass the credit check to set up an account?  How do you charge the battery in a country where only 2% of the nation has electricity?

Do you use the cig plug in your $85,000 Toyota pickup truck with a $300,000 anti-aircraft gun mounted on the back?  Then again, you don’t have the money to buy tennis shoes.

And so it goes…

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44 Responses to “Crash NOT Credible Accident or Suicide”

  1. Denyse Pez March 28, 2015 at 11:42 am

    One day when people look towards our history the name Gordan Duff shall be remembered as a hero. I’m more then grateful for all that you put forth.

  2. Susa March 28, 2015 at 6:45 am

    Most likely an AWACS-type hijack. Very interesting detail, that just a day before a “suicide”, there was a profound maintenance made to the plane and the most interesting is, that they even changed or installed a new electronic system into the plane. This was told in the scandinavian radio, but the mainstream hasnt mencioned it at all.

    There are many US bases in north Italy, just near the border and such a coincidence, that there was one Pentagon agent (geospacial inteligencia by satellites) Yvonne Selke in the plane, as many other mossads as well.

    The date is also very interesting. 24 of March is some beast feast day according to a satanic calendar AND- THE WORLD JEWRY DECLARED A WAR TO GERMANY 24 OF MARCH IN 1933. Oh yes….

    Lubitz most likely was part of the plan and everyone who knows the history of ritualmurdering Lubaviz-Lubitz hasidics, would never ever step in the to plane they are flying.

  3. Jack Heart March 27, 2015 at 1:45 pm

    “everyone who thought they knew things, the CIA, the Rand Corporation, the CFR, were simply making it all up.”

    That’s why as they say on the Avenue “all eyes upon you”

    • LC March 27, 2015 at 8:43 pm

      RiteOn Mr. Heart while confirming McDuff above:

      that’s the shortcut approach to loot most $$$$ == highest rate of return if they sell its FBB == False Billing Bonds!!!

      Its called “FALSE BILLING” == “FALSE FLAG BILLING” & that’s how this country & world’s been milked couple hundred years!!!

      The record false billing probably goes to NASA for looting today’s equivalent of about $$$$60 TRILLION since end WW-2 with all their hoaxes from Apollos to Shuttles + Mars & all. Thank you Dr. Von Braun!!!

      Not to forget the above record loot was by supposedly a handful of private joints in control of literally handful of people!!!

  4. Bente March 27, 2015 at 12:41 pm

    well … told ya… on the first piece you wrote yesterday that the ‘going to pee’ – story – I don’t buy it… … too bad I have to mention it myself. But at least I have the satisfaction I am as smart as your humourist Rob Hanson … !!!! !!!!

    I L

  5. Toxic Trinity March 27, 2015 at 10:35 am

    Some other blogger (Jim Stone) claims Germanwings 9525 was being accompanied by two French fighter jets during its 8 minute descent and brutal impact. Anyone heard anything more about this aspect? Sheer speculation? Or a missing link? Remember, France has long been a Freemasonic basket case.

    Calm breathing, and no vocalizations, by the relatively young co-pilot as the immovable Alps fast approach? Pull the other one!

    Which satellites are specifically tasked to relay the signals that can control these fly-by-wire passenger aircraft? Who owns them? Because those Owners (and I don’t give a damn how important they think they are) are now accessories to mass murder. You all understand the import of this?

  6. Lonegunmen March 27, 2015 at 2:36 am

    Makes people think twice before taking a flight. For the near term the evil will prevail. But in the long run a counter measure will be figured out, hopefully.

    • Allesandro March 27, 2015 at 4:41 am

      But complex counter-measures were figured out and deployed as outlined above. Then intense study of treachery, deception, found a way around those and here we are.

    • moneytalks March 28, 2015 at 5:07 am

      Stop flying if possible — the airflight industry is satanicly corrupted as are many intel agencies .

  7. Ted Gorsline March 27, 2015 at 1:49 am

    Chip Tatum mentioned a mind control drug called Ayusca, I think. It comes from the flowers of a tree from Columbia that now grows in California and likely Israel with its warm climate. Vice TV has a video about it.

    According to the write ups you just blow powder from this plant on someone and then suggest that they do something and they will not only unwittingly do it, they will forget what they have done it immediately afterwards.

    There is also a very interesting U tube video from British TV where an actor is hypnotized to such an extent that he goes into a theatre and shoots someone in the audience on demand and then he forgets he has done it.

    The above two scenarios might explain the very calm manner and relaxed manner in which the co-pilot took his own life and the lives of 149 others. All reports have said his breathing as recorded on the black box was completely as he organized his own death and that of others.

    • Allesandro March 27, 2015 at 4:50 am


      I think the drug you are referring to is Barundunga or Scopolamine, which is unique and can be used for the most nefarious purposes, including those you mention, its from Columbia.

    • dirtus napus March 27, 2015 at 6:01 am

      Yup, Scopolamine…..

      Ted is spot on too. I’ve studied these things much farther than anyone who finds it very easy to stay in their box filled with satellites, and hacker frequencies, and “Q’s” down in the basement of MI6. You don’t need any of these infinitely complex scenarios and absolutely perfectly timed black ops anymore. Seems it’s easier to believe the old way of doing things is more convenient and you can mock anyone who doesn’t believe it by telling them they’re learning to read between the lines. I’ve got one? Whenever someone just took “time off” from work and disappeared for a while, it means something totally different to me. Kingman, Arizona anyone? Old war/world thinking keeps some in the same predictable box that’s full of the wrong reasons. Square holes looking for square problems, easily fooled until the curve smacks them in the head. Problem I have already is, when the old world catches up, will they still mock those that haven’t caught up just because they finally have?
      Looks like VT needs one more dimension on staff too me.

    • Fascist_Decapitator March 27, 2015 at 3:18 pm

      It’s BURUNDANGA AND COLOMBIA, not barundanga and Columbia.

    • Ted Gorsline March 28, 2015 at 11:14 am

      Thanks for correcting me on the name of the drug guys. My memory doesn’t work as well as it used to, but if the information on the internet about this stuff is accurate, the stuff certainly makes it very easy for an intelligence service to get a guy like the copilot to kill himself and crash an aircraft.

  8. LightSaber March 27, 2015 at 1:06 am

    The Western governments know this and cannot prevent?! OTOH the Russians were not able to prevent somebody crashing their SuperJet demo flight in Asia a few years ago…

  9. Muxia March 27, 2015 at 12:34 am

    Thanks for putting this information out there, Gordon – and so, so much more, besides.
    …I personally knew something was up when the Daily Mail ran a graphic of the ‘stages’ leading up to the accident (such certainty pretty soon after the event, itself, eh?), including one – and I s**t you not – of a pilot trying to kick down the cockpit security door (in desperation, we’re told).
    ….Once I saw that, I knew something had to be up. I’m no airline security expert, but the idea of an experienced, quick witted and no doubt cool as a (German) cucumber airline captain trying to kick down a bulletproof door while hundreds of already panicking passengers looked on? Nah, just doesn’t make sense~ But, as you say yourself, very little does, these days! Maybe that’s the whole point, after all. Very, very strange. And as for the pilots themselves? So much for ‘rest in peace’.

  10. Searcher15 March 26, 2015 at 10:17 pm

    I’m sure Gordon is correct – the latest in a non stop catalogue of “terror” events which don’t make sense other than being the product of some special intelligence or other, Mossad et at.

  11. LC March 26, 2015 at 9:42 pm

    Satan Struck again:

    RiteOn: No Suicide dive.

    SatanYahu revenged against Germany NOT to sign anything with Iran.!!! That’s what it was folks. & its blackmail Message probably delivered to German Chancellor in advance of downing & blackmail will probably work against not just Germany but U.S. too.
    Not to mention fact that downing occurred in France Rothschild Khazarian Mafia (KM) world headquarters!!! So did Charlie happen in France & in Rothschild-bought propaganda company!!!
    Statistically probabilities of these as mentioned above are more like One-in-Tri-Zillions!!!

    The Rothschilds Own Charlie Hebdo?

    Mr. Duff:
    I see that above you acknowledge the SatanYahu Popeye missile fired from submarine stolen from Germany & fired into PentaCon on 9/11/01 as Remote-Viewed by the “FARSHIGHT PROJECT” team of Dr. Courtney Brown!!! That’s awesome.
    Thank you for that too.

  12. Sic Semper Tyrannis March 26, 2015 at 9:30 pm

    Could this be the CIA’s revenge against Germany for breaking ranks by being a founding member of the AIIB??? Can you really blame Germany after the FED has refused to give Germany their rightful gold back likely because it’s MISSING??? The AIIB situation has TPTB in the USSA awfully pissed. The creation of this bank is the death knell of US influence. It is a vote of no-confidence in the US-backed World Bank and the US petrodollar and a nod to the economic stability of China. Germany, France, and Italy are following the lead of Great Britain which has already joined the AIIB. Australia is considering joining as well. Japan and other Asian nations are giving it some thought. I expect many other European nations will jump ship soon…

    • PAUL LEO FASO March 27, 2015 at 5:27 am

      This financial shift is key to understanding the myriad of events unfolding in political, financial and military positions right now.

      It is very similar to watching the last rounds of a heavyweight boxing match, whereby the exhausted champion is knocked out by the younger challenger.

      The controls and flows of global cash are now being moved into new sectors and the pernicious scum who once ran the deal are going to eat the shit sandwich for a change.

      This act is one of the last blows flung out recklessly by a lost cause.

    • NavyBrat March 27, 2015 at 2:33 pm

      For me, this is the most plausible scenerio. A message is being sent to Frau Merckel, who has been displaying too much non-compliance of late; A peace deal in Ukraine, joining the AIIB, not giving anything to Greece and so forth. This all runs counter to official bank policy. This is just further implementation of Operation Gladio, with any high value targets on the flight being merely bonus.

  13. moneytalks March 26, 2015 at 9:13 pm

    @ jim dean

    Thanks for the explanation . I for one am getting used to ignoring literary formalities as far as VT is concerned and only look for their gold nuggets scattered about .

    • Simpleton March 27, 2015 at 12:56 am

      Yeah we are all anti-semantics now, but never right charlies !

  14. James Robertson March 26, 2015 at 8:25 pm

    A most elegant title, I am envious. The whole idea that this or the Egyptian episode were suicides is transparent BS. Depression quite simply does not work like that, a job is like a have, a refuge, respite, it is the time alone with your own thoughts that is testing. I watched Merkel’s presser after they brought this out and it seemed obvious to me that her words, while playing lip service to the nonsense they are going with it was clear to me that Merkel’s remarks were addressed to the Cabal behind this terror attack. They are at a desperate and crazy phase of their demise it seems. Also very interesting that a Bozze Allen Hamilton employee Yvonne Selke was on board, . Good job Gordon , someone actually needs to bring an end to the operations of this group quite urgently in my opinion.

  15. Jim W. Dean, Managing Editor March 26, 2015 at 8:23 pm

    It’s called news from the front lines…typed up while under fire. You would not believe how busy a day it has been…with two and a half hours of VT radio ending when I was on and the server got hacked just when getting into how JINSA subverts the military brass to make hand puppets out of them…and kaboom…off the air we went. Welcome to the wonderful world of independent media.

  16. David Ansible March 26, 2015 at 8:05 pm

    A quote from Colonel Bearden seems pertinent:

    “Remember Captain Button, flying his A-10 Warthog toward the range, suddenly peeled away from his companions and flew off cross country for over an hour? He ignored all radio messages, circled at one point (probably dropped his ordnance there), then flew until he crashed into the side of a mountain and was killed.

    That was a deliberate test in the mid-U.S. to demonstrate that a human could be controlled for one hour, while doing a technical set of tasks (flying an airplane), in a hypnogogic state, successfully. The test was a total success.”

    It’s hard to know what to make of this. I wonder for instance where Bearden got his information. But nonetheless, there it is.

    • Allesandro March 27, 2015 at 10:20 am

      I think some of the “principals” involved, as well as those carrying out these plots, need to be I.D.’d and then targeted. Yes, they may be replaced by others of the “same cloth” but if they keep being eliminated, eventually they won’t have replacements or their methods won’t get passed on because there is no one left to pass anything along. It’s been too treacherous on their side, and far too ethical and civilized on our side.

      Bush 2 talked about “the gloves coming off”, Cheney about going to the “Dark-Side”, they weren’t talking about the enemy so much as about the citizens, us, being used, abused, lied to, manipulated, etc., all this was kicked up several notches after those statements.

      They have been able to conduct these “operations’ with few or NO penalties. Still free, still rich, still have servants, luxuries, protections, and the ability to plot more war, murder and mayhem and strategize with each other, coordinate it all. At the same these criminals resent the “unwashed masses” using the Internet to formulate an understanding of what they did to us and how, and a possible response with limited resources.

    • moneytalks March 28, 2015 at 5:31 am

      @ Allesandro

      We the resistance collectively have a far greater true intelligence power ( due to a greater multitude of us ) than the KM if only we can get it sufficiently organized beyond the egos and the misinformed intelligences among us . We will prevail eventually — hopefully sooner with fewer casualties than later after many losses .

  17. Detlef Reimers March 26, 2015 at 7:49 pm

    I think, Gordon just touched an important point, but of course, he cannot brief us on the important internas.

    He just confirmed, what I always was guessing somehow, that people all over the world in high positions have no clue or don’t bother if an outside country – and this time I definitely mean Israel – is allowed to take care of their chemical factories, their atomic reactors (remember Sweden or Japan, or even Merkel here in Germany – who totally contradicted her own politic so far and turned her atomic politics around 1800 degress?) and also their precious air ports.

    Putin had to wait until it happeened in Russia, Holland knows about the illegal isreali military happenings but doesn’t say anything about it – even when one of these crashed into big buildings with cathastrophal consequences for the dutch people there. Japan knows – some only feel or guess – but undoubtly they are already aware of that they’ve been attacked. UK gives the whole last Olympiade to an Israeli “security” firm, what a gigantic joke is this, whe are emerging here?

    On the same place in France, there already was a similar cathastrophic crash. This will add up to Gordon’s statistical unpropability. This definitely was an attac, no accident of any kind. I’m interested to hear if french military of some kind was involved.

  18. David Ansible March 26, 2015 at 7:40 pm

    I would also add that EgyptAir Flight 990 out of NY in the late nineties I think, had a
    very similar scenario. One pilot took a bathroom break and the other cut the engines and flew the plane into the ocean.

    • Jim W. Dean, Managing Editor March 26, 2015 at 8:18 pm

      Good reminder David. I had lost track of that.

    • dirtus napus March 27, 2015 at 6:12 am

      While all are reminded of that, remember what that pilot did to the fuel controls as well. On the way down too! Furthermore, look into JFK Jr’s fuel problems ON THE WAY DOWN too. And a bunch of other suspicious crashes where the fuel valve was shut off, and then look at what it takes to do that in flight? No crash can turn those valves. But……I’m still learning to read between the lines…..

  19. srjonesad March 26, 2015 at 6:53 pm

    Circles within circles ever smaller, good and evil delusions, each reflects the other when looking in the mirror.

  20. David Odell March 26, 2015 at 6:47 pm

    Well. I get the scariest search is the search for the people who Must know what they are doing, and it always ends with that realization that it all just happens and there really is no person who Knows, but the specific item released involved a guy breathing but not saying anything in the cockpit as the plane went down, like the private plane flown by Larry Glazer into the Carribean. Is the initial report false or is there a way to disable the copilot ? or was it a murder suicide with the copilot as conspirator ? its all just too much work, but access is not limited to physical. 8 minutes is a long time tit for tat extends and leads to escalation, the people are the hope but it will take time

  21. MileHighLife March 26, 2015 at 6:32 pm

    I find the “official” version “remotely” possible.

  22. DaveE March 26, 2015 at 6:29 pm

    Putting a plane into an uncontrollable tailspin takes a matter of seconds, not hours or even minutes. There’s no system that can prevent it, satellite based or otherwise. How would such a system know the difference between a fast maneuver to avoid an errant Cessna versus an errant suicidal copilot with a death wish for 16 German kids? It could not.

    As for getting the pilot out of the cabin, there’s always the “hot chick in seat 16A who just passed me this note that she’d like to meet you” scam…….. and about 50 other methods.

    • DaveE March 26, 2015 at 7:07 pm

      Also, am I correct that the cockpit voice recorder has been recovered, but not the flight data recorder? I think that’s what RT said last I checked.

    • Gordon Duff, Senior Editor March 26, 2015 at 10:41 pm

      the system has limitations…can’t land in over 30 knot crosswinds….but not much else.

  23. Dan March 26, 2015 at 6:14 pm

    These events don’t violate the methods of stochastic or logical probability, but rather are exposed by the latter as unlikely in the extreme. I can’t find data for my ideas on the proper reference class for this pilot’s supposed suicide, but my gut feeling is that on the evidence so far presented the story is unlikely to be true. I think it would be unwise to point fingers based on what little we know so far, even against countries and people that have denounced Germany and Germans and threatened them with annihilation.

  24. joe chuy-medina March 26, 2015 at 6:04 pm

    “now we are communicating.” the suicide theory is pretty weak.
    no pee break, no crash; have to wait for another random flight? nothing of value on the CVR, as useless as the alleged recorder from UA93. A glide slope under someone’s control, when a dive to terrain might have accomplished the objective. No reaction from ATC’s when the plane veers of course? Etc. I realize I am keeping it simple when it is much more complex; trifles, as they say. But, as Dickens said, “trifles are the sum of life.” Charles, not Jimmy.

  25. WPO March 26, 2015 at 5:29 pm

    Why did no one of the passengers make a phone call, as with United Airlines Flight 93?

  26. David Ansible March 26, 2015 at 5:23 pm

    Not really a suicide, no. But the fly by wire explanation doesn’t work either, not if accounts are correct that the copilot was breathing normally and not responding to the frantic knocks from the pilot. What might account for this aspect of things? Perhaps remote control of a different sort….

    • moneytalks March 26, 2015 at 9:19 pm

      The cockpit door could have been remotely locked while the co-pilot was on a bathroom break . What kind of security plan would not allow for the possibility of anyone having to answer a call-of-nature at any time ?

    • rolan March 27, 2015 at 4:04 am

      > the copilot was breathing normally and not responding

      Au contraire. Sitting there O(10′), breathing NORMALLY, not
      uttering any whisper/word/etc.; listening what is going behind
      the door?! Are you kidding?! It’s even physiologically normally
      IMPOSSIBLE [have studied 2x semesters physiology], unless you are
      somehow drugged.

      Notice that very likely (I am pressed right now, can’t research)
      the A320 was coming from Germany. Refilling, quick checks,
      reloading, reprogramming and so forth and then back. To get the
      idea, pilots, even on shorter routes, can’t eat nor drink as it
      please them. If I am not mistaken they can’t even eat anything
      similar and never from the same (aircraft) source anyway to avoid
      that some food poisoning symptoms may manifest in synchrony. So
      their *input* is relatively constrained.

      Rest assured that there as many drugs (to inhale, ingest, etc.)
      that would not be traceable with time, as required, and that
      could be used. Some kind of synchronization (it didn’t have to go
      down to the second) would also not have gone beyond feasible.
      Copilots sit also on an established position moreover.

      Anyway: this apparent state of atharassia that the copilot should
      have exhibited is pure nonsense.

      There should also have had a phase in which the copilot would have
      released adrenaline–which is noticeable [-> adrenaline rush]

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