The “Russian Hacking” story changes yet again

Source: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-05/russian-hacking-story-changes-again

Today at 9:30 am, senior U.S. intelligence officials face questions at a Senate hearing that will be dominated by the intelligence community’s assessment that Russia meddled in the presidential election to help Donald Trump win. Participating will be James R. Clapper, Jr., Director Of National Intelligence. Marcel J. Lettre II, Under Secretary Of Defense For Intelligence and Admiral Michael S. Rogers, USN, Commander, United States Cyber Command.

The Armed Services Committee’s cyber threats hearing on Thursday comes a day before the president-elect is to be briefed by the CIA and FBI directors — along with the director of national intelligence — on the investigation into Russia’s alleged hacking efforts. Trump has been deeply critical of their findings, even appearing to back controversial WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange’s contention that Russia did not provide him with hacked Democratic emails.

The committee’s session is the first in a series aimed at investigating purported Russian cyber-attacks against U.S. interests and developing defenses sturdy enough to blunt future intrusions. “We will obviously be talking about the hacking, but the main thing is the whole issue of cybersecurity,” the committee’s Republican chairman, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, said ahead of the hearing. “Right now we have no policy, no strategy to counter cyberattacks.”

More importantly, however, the hearing comes hours after Reuters reported overnight that U.S. intelligence agencies obtained what they considered to be conclusive evidence after the November election that Russia provided hacked material from the Democratic National Committee to WikiLeaks. However, in the latest change of the narrative, this time the allegation is that Russia provided the hacked data through a third party, three U.S. officials said on Wednesday.

Wikieaks was quick to highlight that according to the report, US officials admitted that the Wikileaks “source” was not Russia, and that the goal posts now shifted to the source’s source:

In keeping with the theme of providing no proof to the general public, the officials declined to describe the intelligence obtained about the involvement of a third-party in passing on leaked material to WikiLeaks, saying they did not want to reveal how the U.S. government had obtained the information. So just trust them, please.

The shift in the narrative is curious because as a reminder, officials had concluded “months earlier” that Russian intelligence agencies had directed the hacking, but had been less certain that they could prove Russia also had controlled the release of information damaging to Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton. It now appears that along with lack of evidence, the attention has shifted to an “intermediary” as being the responsible party .

In an interview with Fox News, WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange said he did not receive emails stolen from the DNC and top Hillary Clinton aide John Podesta from “a state party.” Assange did not rule out the possibility that he got the material from a third party.

Trump on Wednesday sided with Assange and again questioned the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusion that Russia tried to help his candidacy and hurt Clinton’s.

Concern by U.S. officials over the hacking first spiked in August, when intelligence agencies concluded that Russian intelligence, with the direction of President Vladimir Putin, had been trying to disrupt and discredit the presidential and congressional elections. Obama in August rejected recommendations from some of his advisors to disclose the Russian link and take some limited covert action as “a shot across Putin’s bow to knock it off,” one official with knowledge of the matter said. Instead, Obama warned Putin privately, arguing that a similar private message to Chinese President Xi Jinping had reduced Chinese hacking into U.S. agencies and companies.

Ultimately, the additional intelligence informed U.S. President Barack Obama’s decision to retaliate on Dec. 29 by expelling 35 suspected Russian spies and sanctioning two Russian spy agencies, four intelligence officers and three companies, a decision that capped four months of debate at the White House about how to respond.

So far not a shred of evidence has been provided confirming the Kremlin’s involvement in the matter, aside from some Ukrainian malware code exposed in a 13-page joint DHS/FBI report which could be purchased by anyone online.

 

Comments:

SHOCKED I tell you, I’m SHOCKED…..NOT.
1 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:24:43 AM by Rockitz

To: All
“In keeping with the theme of providing no proof to the general public, the officials declined to describe the intelligence obtained about the involvement of a third-party in passing on leaked material to WikiLeaks, saying they did not want to reveal how the U.S. government had obtained the information. So just trust them, please.”
2 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:26:20 AM by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science – Follow the money and you’ll find the truth.)

To: Rockitz

“Right now we have no policy, no strategy to counter cyberattacks.”

That is an admission of gross incompetence by Arizona’s favorite war criminal.

3 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:26:21 AM by Psalm 144 (Deplorable and loving it.)

To: Rockitz

I do notice the Democrats are taking this opportunity to wrap themselves in the flag.

4 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:26:34 AM by marron

To: Rockitz

Time to get this off my chest.

I did it.

I’ll call the FBI and wait outside. 🙂

Of course when they find out I have ZERO knowledge of how to “hack”, they might just send me to psych ward.

5 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:27:25 AM by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)

To: Rockitz

You mean Jill Stein’s shakedown….I mean, recount, didn’t uncover any hacking??

6 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:27:27 AM by ealgeone

To: Rockitz

The story will keep changing until the Democrats get the lie like they want it.

7 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:27:56 AM by sport

To: Rockitz

If the “main stream media “ did even a minimal job, the dems would be laughed out of office.

8 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:28:46 AM by samtheman (I REALLY hope Trump reads FR)

To: Rockitz

China and Russia have hacked Pentagon, State, OMB computers. Not one ambassador sent home, not one word from the president. No hearings. No big deal.

Steal Podesta’s password, and they are talking “act of war”.

9 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:29:45 AM by marron

To: Rockitz
Sen. John McCain of Arizona, said ahead of the hearing. “Right now we have no policy, no strategy to counter cyberattacks.”Umm maybe no policy but the Fem and the phone dude sure wreaked havoc with the NSA, IRS and others. Worked really good for you leftist pukes you sad Mcman-tool.

10 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:30:35 AM by Karliner (Jeremiah29:11,Romans8:28 Isa 17, Damascus has fallen)

To: Rockitz
From the article, and the bottom line: So far not a shred of evidence has been provided confirming the Kremlin’s involvement in the matter, aside from some Ukrainian malware code exposed in a 13-page joint DHS/FBI report which could be purchased by anyone online.
11 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:30:37 AM by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)

To: ealgeone

Actually, Jill Stein did expose election rigging in Detroit, and they shut down her recount that very same day.

12 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:30:48 AM by marron

To: Rockitz

If Russians participated in exposing the rot of the democrat party – than SPASIBA ! from the American people.

And if there is more rot about the Republican Party- please share!

13 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:31:03 AM by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)

To: dp0622
Unless you’re Russian, they won’t believe you.
(So speak with thick Russian accent, da.)
14 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:31:18 AM by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life, Is equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)

To: marron

I keep hearing the echo of, “You said Russia. And the 1980s are now calling to ask for their foreign policy back. Because the Cold War has been over for 20 years.”
Incompetence does not describe this. Malice is more like it.
They want people to think of Trump as a Russian Puppet.

15 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:32:09 AM by griswold3

To: marron

Excellent

16 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:32:34 AM by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)

To: Rockitz

Can Americans trust any agency that armed al Qaeda?

No.

17 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:33:22 AM by Diogenesis (“When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.”)

To: marron
When Trump meets with intel leaders on Friday, I expect it will be short and sweet:”Get your resumés updated. You’re fired in 15 days.”

18 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:33:46 AM by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)

To: Rockitz
Anyone let if be known that right after Seth Rich’s the DNC hired a spokesman for the family and now the family has become frustrated with lack of progress
19 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:34:07 AM by scooby321 (o even lower)

To: Rockitz
He’s so full of crap.

20 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:34:53 AM by econjack

To: Rockitz

The present central socialist government is comprised of layer upon layer of liars.

21 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:36:09 AM by HomerBohn (Shove a slinky down the starts then a leftist. Both actions will being smiles to your face.)

To: marron

Podesta’s password was “password”.

The hearing I’m watching is a joke.

22 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:36:16 AM by isthisnickcool (Say what you will about The Donald, but he has all the right enemies.)

To: xzins

Trump needs to clean out State and CIA both.

Anyone involved in arming ISIS, anyone that thought hiring Al Qaeda as our proxies, needs to go teach community college in Des Moines, if they manage to escape criminal prosecution. How many hundreds of thousands of people are dead thanks to this?

Its only been a couple of months back that I saw an article stating that several dozen intel analysts had resigned because their bosses were cooking their reports to give the White House what they wanted. Trump needs to clean house.

23 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:38:17 AM by marron

To: Rockitz

I found it funny when this issue came up on NPR this morning. They were mentioning that Trump is out of synch with even the republicans on this issue.

Then they trot out their usual suspect “republican” to comment about being troubled by Trump’s odd refusal to believe. Yep, it was Graham, as usual. I think they tag team Graham and McCain when they need a voice of the “disgruntled” republicans.

24 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:38:42 AM by Mr. Douglas (Today is your life. What are you going to do with it?)

To: Karliner

Linda Graham just insisted we “throw rocks” at Russia for interfering in our election.
Hope he has some boulders ready for Bibi to throw at Obama for interfering in Israel’s ekectoon!

25 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:38:48 AM by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement!)

To: Rockitz

The hearing is sheer political theater filled with leading questions to score political points. If I’m Trump I brush this aside. On another note, if they plan on forcing Trump’s hand then why didn’t they force Obama’s? Are they suggesting that they are every bit as much to blame as Obama or are we to take that as evidence that they really CAN’T force the President to do anything? They keep saying Obama was the problem but apparently they could have just forced his hand and force sanctions on China and Russia and Iran…please explain.

26 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:38:54 AM by wiseprince

To: griswold3

This is also very much about distracting Americans from Islamic terrorism and inner-city crime.

27 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:39:34 AM by A_perfect_lady

To: milagro

Election.
Stupid fingers.

28 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:39:54 AM by milagro (There is no peace in appeasement!)

To: samtheman
If the “main stream media “ did even a minimal job, the dems would be laughed out of office.

Which is why they don’t.

29 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:40:10 AM by Buckeye McFrog

To: marron

Stealing Podesta’s password? I wouldn’t call it stealing if it’s an easily guessable version of the most common password used on every computer:

User = jpodesta
Password = p@ssw0rd

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/22335

30 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:40:16 AM by angryoldfatman

To: marron
Steal Podesta’s password, and they are talking “act of war”.Didn’t even have to steal it since the password was password. That is the first word any hacker would try when trying to access an account.

31 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:40:33 AM by TheCipher (Suppose you were an idiot and suppose you were a member of Congress. But I repeat myself. Mark Twain)

To: dp0622
Re>Of course when they find out I have ZERO knowledge of how to “hack”, they might just send me to psych ward.Careful. Podesta’s password was “password”. No knowledge was needed to hack the moron’s account. They could find you guilty.

32 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:40:36 AM by IC Ken

To: Rockitz
“US officials admitted that the Wikileaks “source” was not Russia, and that the goal posts now shifted to the source’s source”In other words, they lied.

Assange was correct all the time.

33 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:40:39 AM by detective

To: Rockitz

In other words, it was an inside job from somebody in the intelligence community who knew the Russians had full access to the less-than-secure systems, was sickened by the corruption, and gave the info to WikiLeaks. Itel community doesn’t want to own up to their culpability, so they are cloaking it under “national security.”

34 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:41:59 AM by Hoffer Rand (God be greater than the worries in my life, be stronger than the weakness in my mind, be magnified.)

To: marron

I agree. All the way down to the GS15 level, or however they rank members in these agencies.

I’m talking LT Colonel equivalencies all need to be thoroughly vetted.

35 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:42:08 AM by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)

To: Psalm 144
The ‘Rats should be responsible for their own data, NOT the US gov’t.Now is time to come clean on exactly what happened. I t sounds like someone hacked into Podesta’s e-mail account and cleaned it out. That is Podesta’s problem for accout security and maybe the ‘rats problem with not checking out the IP addresses of users.

As for the “hack” of the DNC, we could use some details of the hardware and softwares being used. Plus a look at their logs, if any.

This is now turned into VERY foggy smoke and mirrors and layers of obfuscation.

The only clarity about Clapper is that he seems to be clearly a doofus.

36 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:43:44 AM by Paladin2 (No spellcheck. It’s too much work to undo the auto wrong word substitution on mobile devices.)

To: dp0622

don’t worry about the FBI knocking on your door.

Comby says on stuff like these cyber attacks, they just “sub contract out the investigation”

37 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:44:38 AM by thinden

To: griswold3
They are telling Progs what to think. For the next 50 years, demonidiots will blandly claim that the 2016 election was stolen by the Russians, and Trump was a Putin tool.I offer that “Bush was Selected in 2000!” as an example of just how easy it is to steer the congenitally Stupid. 17 f#cking years, and there are millions of Leftist morons who hold to this with the faith of a French pilgrim with a Nail of the True Cross clutched in his hands… (Mark Twain once said that he’d seen enough True Nails to fill a keg.)

38 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:47:28 AM by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)

To: griswold3

>They want people to think of Trump as a Russian Puppet.

Good. It will make them look crazy when Trump rebuilds our nuclear arsenal and Russia attacks him over it. He’s a Russian puppet, no he’s trying to start a war with Russia! LOL.

39 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:48:00 AM by RedWulf (Trump:Front Lines. Obama: Back Nine. Hillary:Nap T)

To: Mr. Douglas

Apparently they are running out of disgruntled republicans. Time was they could alternate those two with Linc Chaffee, Susan Collins, and Arlen Specter but they’re all gone now.

40 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:48:58 AM by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)

To: detective

good catch

41 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:49:08 AM by thinden

To: Rockitz

“So just trust them, please.”

Headshake, stupid, stupid, stupid!

42 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:50:25 AM by Texas Fossil ((Texas is not where you were born, but a Free State of Heart, Mind & Attitude!))

To: Psalm 144

It’s not McCain’s job to have a policy / strategy to counter cyberattacks.

43 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:50:45 AM by bagman

To: dp0622
dp0622 … ?

I can’t seem to find you on the payroll.?

44 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:50:49 AM by Navy Patriot (America, a Rule of Mob nation)

To: Rockitz

“Mandela Effect”…

45 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:51:50 AM by HarleyLady27 (‘THE FORCE AWAKENS!!!’ Trump/Pence: MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!!!)

To: marron

Well, yes, you must have some perspective. When Podesta’s e-mail was hacked, now that was serious!

46 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:51:56 AM by bagman

To: xzins

Yes. He needs to fire the current regime. Then he needs to set up some commissions to recruit back those agents, noncoms, and officers that have left due to the suppression.

47 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:52:19 AM by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)

To: Rockitz
Given the knowledge that Obama embedded Muslim Brotherhood agents in our intelligence community, it is likely that patriotic members of that community are reaching out to the Trump intel team through back channels.Hence the sources he mentioned the other day.

48 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:53:57 AM by RoosterRedux

To: marron

I hope Trump tweets about that. This is being used as politically motivated. They have no proof.

49 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:53:58 AM by VermithraxPejorative

To: Rockitz

As President Trump said many time during the campaign, “ we have very stupid leaders.”

50 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:57:08 AM by americas.best.days… ( I think we can now say that they are behind us.)
To: Rockitz

And still, when China hacked the fingerprints, social security numbers, and other personal information of 21 million federal employees, Obama didn’t bat an eye and did nothing — no expelled diplomats, no public expression of disapproval, nothing. And the corrupt MSM? Other than initial reports… nothing.

Moreover, as you will notice, like the good trial lawyers they are, Democrats have very successfully removed ANY and ALL discussion of the actual contents of the emails with how they might have been hacked!

No denials of all the egregious information contained in the emails. No discussion of Hillary’s illegal homebrew server. No discussion about classified information harmful to the US discussed. Nope.

Look over here: THE RUSSIANS! THE RUSSIANS!

51 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:57:22 AM by Obadiah

To: marron; All

Lindsey Graham is trying to draw a distinction between hacking for espionage purposes (everybody does that, so it’s OK) and hacking with the intent to alter the political landscape (VERBOTTEN!!!).

The essential bottom line here is that the US Senate does not care about national security, just political security. Same with DNI and CIA.

Outrageous!!!!!

52 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:57:34 AM by Mariner (War Criminal #18)

To: marron; All

Lindsey Graham is trying to draw a distinction between hacking for espionage purposes (everybody does that, so it’s OK) and hacking with the intent to alter the political landscape (VERBOTTEN!!!).

The essential bottom line here is that the US Senate does not care about national security, just political security. Same with DNI and CIA.

Outrageous!!!!!

53 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:57:38 AM by Mariner (War Criminal #18)

To: griswold3
Incompetence does not describe this. Malice is more like it. They want people to think of Trump as a Russian Puppet.
54 posted on 1/5/2017, 11:57:39 AM by combat_boots (God bless Israel and all who protect and defend her! And please, God, bless the USA again.)

To: ichabod1

Not just intel but also the military.

55 posted on 1/5/2017, 12:00:16 PM by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)

To: RedWulf

That’s my thought on this. They are proving to be gung ho for war with Russia over Podesta’s emails so let’s see them in the future. At least Trump knows they want conflict here. This will be good for Trump to remind the American people.

56 posted on 1/5/2017, 12:02:15 PM by VermithraxPejorative

To: Obadiah

Trump is getting there – he tweeted this morning about how the networks gave the debate questions to the b!tch but only want to talk about how it was hacked – very unfair. He could shut this down by reposting the emails and asking for confirmation or denial.

57 posted on 1/5/2017, 12:02:18 PM by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)

To: Rockitz

Well, the recounts and the electoral college ploy didn’t work. If Trump doesn’t budge on this Russian hacking scenario that the election was “tainted,” Obama still has another two weeks to start a nice little war with Russia on the Lithuanian border – maybe shoot down a Russian plane – and then “postpone” the handover to Trump on the grounds of “national security.”

58 posted on 1/5/2017, 12:04:08 PM by RAldrich

To: marron

Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel………Samuel Johnson, April 7, 1775………….

59 posted on 1/5/2017, 12:06:08 PM by Red Badger (If “Majority Rule” was so important in South Africa, why isn’t it that way here?…………)

To: marron

That’s because, unlike the other ‘hacks’, this one cost them an election………………

60 posted on 1/5/2017, 12:07:30 PM by Red Badger (If “Majority Rule” was so important in South Africa, why isn’t it that way here?…………)

To: Obadiah

Moreover, as you will notice, like the good trial lawyers they are, Democrats have very successfully removed ANY and ALL discussion of the actual contents of the emails with how they might have been hacked!


Excellent point!BTW, I seem to recall last summer that media was saying:

1. Everybody spies on each other & at least 5 countries hacked Hillary’s emails, so how do they know it was Russians who had impact?

2. We spy on everybody too.

Narrative sure has changed…As you say, the CONTENT of those emails is being totally ignored.

I would add that had she not tried to circumvent the govt. rules by having an unsecured server in a bathroom and if she did not have a moron campaign director who had the word “Password” as his password, she would not have been so easy to hack.

I sure am glad Trump is going to clean house at CIA, FBI, etc.

61 posted on 1/5/2017, 12:07:34 PM by bushwon

To: isthisnickcool

The hearing I’m watching is a joke.

***************

Not unlike 99% of other hearings on Capitol Hill which are just done for the sake of political theater.

62 posted on 1/5/2017, 12:10:08 PM by Starboard

To: Rockitz

Scrambling by those in charge to cover their butts when their allegations become unprovable. The whole thing is now a giant mess created by the Obama administration and it is now falling apart before their eyes.

63 posted on 1/5/2017, 12:18:52 PM by maxwellsmart_agent (EEe)

To: Diogenesis

Can Americans trust any agency that the head was appointed by Obama?

64 posted on 1/5/2017, 12:21:48 PM by wardamneagle

To: isthisnickcool
Podesta’s password was “password”.The hearing I’m watching is a joke.

Everything so far is “in my opinion”. No presentation of any facts in the form of physical evidence, which there should be plenty of in the form of logs and screen captures.

65 posted on 1/5/2017, 12:22:58 PM by USCG SimTech

To: isthisnickcool

With McCain as head of the committee is a joke.

66 posted on 1/5/2017, 12:23:37 PM by wardamneagle

To: Rockitz
“So far not a shred of evidence has been provided confirming the Kremlin’s involvement in the matter, aside from some Ukrainian malware code exposed in a 13-page joint DHS/FBI report which could be purchased by anyone online.”Hard to imagine what proof Clapper could provide, unless he now has an IP address for either the “hack” or the “leak” (of DNC or Podesta email) that originated from a confirmed Russian state source … or from a confirmed “cut-out” used by the Russian state.

One possibility the MSM isn’t willing to consider is that the Russians –among many others– did indeed “hack” the DNC’s email … but that they had nothing to do with “leaking” the material to WikiLeaks. I.e., the possibility that the person who gave the material to WikiLeaks might have been a DNC insider.

67 posted on 1/5/2017, 12:29:00 PM by shhrubbery! (NIH!)

To: IC Ken

lol At least it wasn’t 12345 🙂

68 posted on 1/5/2017, 12:29:46 PM by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)

To: mountn man

lol. I’ll learn the Russian anthem.

69 posted on 1/5/2017, 12:30:16 PM by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)

To: thinden

“Joe’s Hacking detectors and Pizzeria” will show up 🙂

70 posted on 1/5/2017, 12:31:16 PM by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)

To: Navy Patriot

lol. I get my check through a third party.

Like the FBI uses to find hackers.

71 posted on 1/5/2017, 12:34:32 PM by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)

To: Rockitz

Cassandra Fairbank’s periscope feed.
Outside the hearing – McCain in one video, Cruz in another.
https://www.periscope.tv/CassandraRules/1rmGPrnmrVgxN?

72 posted on 1/5/2017, 12:36:12 PM by libertarian27 (FR Cookbooks – On Profile Page)

To: sport

Bottom line….sources from inside the CIA have been leaking to the media. That’s unacceptable and I’d think a crime.

73 posted on 1/5/2017, 12:55:58 PM by grania

To: Rockitz

I thought nobama told Americans our security measures could NO BE hacked. So what happened. Was our ??? president telling us the truth or was it another of his lies?

74 posted on 1/5/2017, 1:00:22 PM by tillacum (I’ve been a Great Deplorable, from the beginning of DJT’s entrance into politics.)

To: Rockitz
“…the allegation is that Russia provided the hacked data through a third party…”Moose and squirrel?

75 posted on 1/5/2017, 1:03:37 PM by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)

To: dp0622

I used to hack all the time, until I got the nicotine out of my system.

76 posted on 1/5/2017, 1:06:48 PM by Eleutheria5 (“If you are not prepared to use force to defend civilization, then be prepared to accept barbarism.)

To: Rockitz

That hearing was an embarrassment. What are they saying Russia actually did?

77 posted on 1/5/2017, 1:06:55 PM by ilovesarah2012

To: Eleutheria5

ROFL

78 posted on 1/5/2017, 1:09:23 PM by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)

To: dp0622

Sorry Charlie, but Julian the Hero Assange, stated in the Hannity interview that he is the only person on the planet that knows how the leak occurred……..that can only mean you are dead. Just think about that one for awhile. Lol.

79 posted on 1/5/2017, 1:11:29 PM by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)

To: isthisnickcool

“Podesta’s password was “password”.”

Wow, just wow.

I was sure it would have been ‘pizza’.

80 posted on 1/5/2017, 1:14:58 PM by polymuser (There’s a big basket of deportables.)

To: angryoldfatman

Gave a password to a business associate of mine once. He looked at it and said, what the heck is that ? I replied random numbers and letters. Apparently he wanted a word he could remember.

81 posted on 1/5/2017, 1:19:59 PM by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)

To: detective

This has been known and public for 6 months…

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The headquarters of the Democratic National Committee is seen in Washington, U.S. June 14, 2016. Russian government hackers penetrated the computer network of the Democratic National Committee and gained access to all opposition research on Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump, the committee and security researchers said on Tuesday.
A hacker claiming responsibility for the DNC hack that made headlines earlier this week has slammed the security company responsible for the incident response, and leaked several documents compromised during the incident – including a 235-page opposition memo on Donald Trump.
On Tuesday, the Washington Post reported that hackers – believed to be Russian – compromised the Democratic National Committee network and walked off with opposition research on Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump.
CrowdStrike, the security firm that was brought in to do incident response, suggested espionage as the likely motive. In fact, later that day, CrowdStrike published reports on two different “APT” groups in Russia, giving them the names Cozy Bear and Fancy Bear.
Overall, the Washington Post story actually read more like a promotion for CrowdStrike’s incident response offerings than actual security news.
But the fact is, someone targeted the DNC directly and that is news worth watching. At the same time, many experts felt it was a stretch to hype the incident as some sort of massive international conspiracy.
The hacker claiming responsibility for the DNC attack (using the alias Guccifer 2.0) mocked CrowdStrike’s assessment that he was a sophisticated hacker group, noting that he was pleased the company “appreciated my skills so highly. But in fact, it was easy, very easy.”
“Guccifer may have been the first one who penetrated Hillary Clinton’s and other Democrats’ mail servers. But he certainly wasn’t the last. No wonder any other hacker could easily get access to the DNC’s servers. Shame on CrowdStrike: Do you think I’ve been in the DNC’s networks for almost a year and saved only 2 documents? Do you really believe it?”
As proof, he published the full opposition report on Donald Trump, which describes the GOP presidential candidate having “no core.”
The 235-page memo is essentially a timeline and collection of comments and speeches given by Trump, as well as an overview of his political stance and mindset.
A 2-page memo to the DNC was included in the cache of posted files, which outlines the suggested positioning and public message strategy around the national election and the match-up between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.
In response to DNC comments that no financial information was accessed during the attack, several donor lists were also published on Wednesday by the hacker, showing millions in financial contributions from Hollywood elites, businesses, trade groups, and unions.
The hacker ended their disclosure with a notice that a bulk of the compromised documents, including memos marked confidential and secret – allegedly taken from Hillary Clinton’s personal email server – were delivered to WikiLeaks.
“The main part of the papers, thousands of files and mails, I gave to WikiLeaks. They will publish them soon. I guess CrowdStrike customers should think twice about company’s competence,” they wrote.
Salted Hash reached out to CrowdStrike for comment, but the company wasn’t able to respond before this article was published. It will be updated with additional details as they become available.
Update:
CrowdStrike didn’t respond to questions directly, but issued the statement below.
“CrowdStrike stands fully by its analysis and findings identifying two separate Russian intelligence-affiliated adversaries present in the DNC network in May 2016. On June 15, 2016 a blog post to a WordPress site authored by an individual using the moniker Guccifer 2.0 claiming credit for breaching the Democratic National Committee. This blog post presents documents alleged to have originated from the DNC.

“Whether or not this posting is part of a Russian Intelligence disinformation campaign, we are exploring the documents’ authenticity and origin. Regardless, these claims do nothing to lessen our findings relating to the Russian government’s involvement, portions of which we have documented for the public and the greater security community.”

Please note that none of this amount to anything COMPARED to Hillary and her minions passing TS/SAP into across unprotected, public, networks with full knowledge of the White House…

82 posted on 1/5/2017, 1:22:38 PM by RedEyeJack (What was the basis for the restriction?)

To: Mr. Douglas
I think they tag team Graham and McCain when they need a voice of the “disgruntled” republicans.Maybe PayPerView can schedule a Tag Team match between McCain/Graham and Sharpton/Jackson?

83 posted on 1/5/2017, 1:24:54 PM by BwanaNdege (“The church … is not the master or the servant of the state, but the conscience” – Luther)

To: justa-hairyape

He lies!!! 🙂

I’m dump my data later. Or at least I’ll dump something later 🙂

84 posted on 1/5/2017, 1:25:50 PM by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)

To: isthisnickcool
The hearing I’m watching is a joke.Not if your goal is to get a few phrases that you can weave into sentences that make the Dems look good and Trump look bad. That is exactly what I heard on network radio news at 1 p.m.

Having the dishonest media on your side helps a lot. I heard on Chris Plante (DC talk show host) this morning that today’s WaPo did not have anything about the Chicago kidnap/torture event even though it was reported last night by 7 p.m.

85 posted on 1/5/2017, 1:27:51 PM by Freee-dame (Drain the swamp!)

To: dp0622

At least we know Julian is still a live breathing human. Maybe you are just some AI bot program. Lol. Don’t laugh too hard. We have had a few here, I suspect. Easy to throw a monkey wrench into their programming.

86 posted on 1/5/2017, 1:30:53 PM by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)

To: justa-hairyape

Calling me an AI bot program is an insult to AI bot programs 🙂

87 posted on 1/5/2017, 1:32:58 PM by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)

To: dp0622

Just trying to figure out what the intentions of your AI programming would be, is near impossible. You seem to be an honest Freeper. Warts and all.

88 posted on 1/5/2017, 1:38:28 PM by justa-hairyape (The user name is sarcastic. Although at times it may not appear that way.)

To: justa-hairyape

I’m an honest FReeper. Can’t say that 100 percent in life but I try!

Joined two years ago when I still thought FOX was conservative, gays would be content with civil unions, maybe there should be a minimum wage, and some other idiotic ideas.

Thanks to FR, they’re gone.

Also learned there was a Russia/China war, Vietnam isn’t a new country, lol, an asteroid could be minutes away from destroying earth and still not be detected, and hundred of other facts. Didn’t know there were other presidents from NY.

The list doesn’t end on FR. It’s like how school should be.

89 posted on 1/5/2017, 1:43:53 PM by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)

To: polymuser
Podesta’s pin for his bank account phone access is probably “5646” (“JOHN”).

90 posted on 1/5/2017, 2:07:10 PM by Heart-Rest (“Well done is better than well said.” – Benjamin Franklin)

To: marron

The only issue, of course, being the fact that the Russians didn’t “hack” Podesta’s password. In fact, no one did. Someone (Sean Rich?) with direct access to the DNC email server just downloaded the emails and provided them to Wikileaks. If you have administrator privileges, you don’t need his password…

91 posted on 1/5/2017, 2:15:42 PM by ManHunter (You can run, but you’ll only die tired… Army snipers: Reach out and touch someone)

To: justa-hairyape

That can be accomplished by using a version of a pet name (or “pet” name) with some letters substituted with special characters (”i” with “!”, “o” with “0”, “a” with “@”, “e” with “3”, etc.).

The great thing about my wife is that she comes up with completely random but memorable names for our children. Like “Melvin”, when neither of my sons is named Melvin (don’t worry, I’ve never used “Melvin” nor any version of it for a password, it’s a completely made-up example).

92 posted on 1/5/2017, 2:18:59 PM by angryoldfatman

To: USCG SimTech

Everything so far is “in my opinion”. No presentation of any facts in the form of physical evidence, which there should be plenty of in the form of logs and screen captures.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Ok ladies and gentlemen, here’s the evidence we promised, right h… oops… that doesn’t say what we want it to say! STOP IT! PULL IT DOWN! SHUT IT DOWN!!

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/22335

93 posted on 1/5/2017, 2:33:16 PM by angryoldfatman

To: RedEyeJack

The so called report was prepared by the Clinton campaign and the DNC. They are the ones who originally released the “Russian hack” lies and disinformation.

The so called “report” contains no additional information. The FBI did not even investigate the hacked servers.

The story keeps changing as lies always do.

94 posted on 1/5/2017, 2:49:12 PM by detective

To: angryoldfatman

I just look around and let my eyes come to rest on some object and use that as the basis.

95 posted on 1/5/2017, 2:59:23 PM by ichabod1 (Make America Normal Again)

To: Rockitz
96 posted on 1/5/2017, 3:04:27 PM by fella (“As it was before Noah so shall it be again,”)

To: Rockitz

Shep Smith is on it now. What a weasel – I had to change the channel. He is beyond worthless. He needs to join Me-again Kelly on NBC.

97 posted on 1/5/2017, 3:06:16 PM by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn’t say what it doesn’t say.)

To: dp0622
Of course when they find out I have ZERO knowledge of how to “hack”, they might just send me to psych ward.Apparently, they have ZERO knowledge on how to hack too. That is why they outsourced the inspection of Podesta’s computer.

98 posted on 1/5/2017, 3:12:47 PM by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn’t say what it doesn’t say.)

To: ichabod1

As long as you use some of that substitution scheme, you’ll probably be OK.

Otherwise, if you just use the object name, you’re subject to a “dictionary attack”. Most hacking software uses some version of that as starting point once the favorites don’t get in, like “password”, the user’s ID, 12345, or iloveyou.

http://searchsecurity.techtarget.com/definition/dictionary-attack

99 posted on 1/5/2017, 3:23:20 PM by angryoldfatman

To: Rockitz

They met to get their stories lined up to match information known to the public. Beyond that, nothing factual. Just unsupported claims.

100 posted on 1/5/2017, 3:26:07 PM by RegulatorCountry

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