Whether you believe I’m a Bernie Bro or not doesn’t matter. Here’s the thing.
Many progressives have told you, the DNC, and the entire world that we won’t support a neoliberal in the general election. It’s true, we won’t. And you know we won’t. So if the Democrats pick a neoliberal, it won’t be our fault that Trump wins. We told you. You had a choice to win with our votes and you chose not to. Trump will be your fault.
Actually nobody has any control over who you vote for but you. Alone. And you have no control over anybody else’s vote, so stop with the temper tantrums and pathetic attempt at extortion. You guys remind me of Trumpsters.
So if trump wins because the Bernie Bros are so butt hurt their savior doesn’t get the nomination, thats On them. The problem is it hurts the entire US.
But that how cultism works. You’re only saved if you believe in JC. All the rest are going to hell and you’re fine with that. Sound familiar?
The Bernie cult is little different from the Donnie cult in this behavior. Think about it.
Well, okay. It appears you think the Dems can win without progressives. It didn’t work in 2016.
And by the way, this is not about temper tantrums. You’re mistaken if you think progressives are going to get so angry that we want to teach the Dems a lesson. That’s not it at all. My point is simply that people vote when they are motivated to. Motivation doesn’t come from negativity. Trump doesn’t motivate us. Neither do Biden, Warren, or Buttigieg. They simply cannot motivate enough people to vote.
You say it’s not about teaching Dems a lesson, so instead you’ll take all your marbles home and teach the rest of the US a lesson. Apparently you’re fine with Trump’s reelection. I disagree that there won’t be enough motivated people to vote. But it looks like you and yours won’t vote because your boy wasn’t chosen prom queen. That’s on you.
You want to believe that, so believe that. But you’re mistaken.
From where progressives sit, what they see is this…
- They’re broke. Student loans are crushing their future. Their parents told them they needed a degree to compete, so they went to school and graduated, but their salaries after school aren’t high enough to pay off the debt. Some of them are living in their cars because they can’t afford to pay the rent on top of their school loan.
- They have no healthcare. None of the insurance policies are within their reach financially. None of them.
- The planet is screwed. Both Republicans and Democrats have ruined the world we live on.
They tuned out politics because politicians have never helped them. Never. Not once.
So, now they see a presidential candidate they believe. They’ll jump through hoops to campaign for Bernie. They’ll crawl through broken glass to vote for him. The future looks brighter with Bernie in the White House. So they’re all in. They’ll show up and they’ll vote.
But if the Democrats put anyone else on the ballot, they won’t inspire these progressives. They just can’t because they’re not credible. They’re not offering a solution to the problems these people face. Biden represents the top 1%. Warren’s daughter makes millions from the health insurance industry. And Buttigieg has no track record to stand on to make him believable. And Kloubucar talks like a Republican.
If you want young people to vote, you’ll have to inspire them to vote. There are more of them than there are voters over the age of 50. So choose.
You’re preaching to the choir. I’m a progressive. I’m also aware that Trump is turning us into a third world banana republic and don’t want to have to tell my children I fiddled while Rome burned.
If you really are a progressive, then you see what we see. The neoliberals have done as much to undermine the working class as Republicans have.
But, you know, a lot of neoliberals believe they’re progressive. No denying that.
Exactly. Most Americans are smart enough to realize that 95% of our problems predate Donald Trump, and are the fault of both parties (or, at best, that neoliberal establishment Democrats have been largely ineffective at stopping the Republican onslaught). Electing another one of them will fix nothing, and lead to just more unrest and more inequality and more war and more global environmental devastation and some other Donald Trump down the line. We want to actually fix things, not perpetuate the conditions that led to Trump.
Thank you, Matthew.
Lady… If you’re willing to vote for Biden, Warren, Buttigieg or Klobuchar …. don’t flatter yourself by calling yourself “the choir”…. Trumpsters might like their pit of vipers. But the neoliberals like Obama and Hillary are a bunch of chameleons with private positions for the rich and public positions for the rest.
No bcuz Bernie supporters are sophisticated enough to know any of the Democratic choices are better than 4 more years of Trump.
These are the types of questions being asked by former Hillary and now Biden supporters.
The DNC was not fair to Bernie in 2016 and the consequences of this (then and now) aren’t the fault of the Bernie supporters themselves.
